Even President Obama Doesn't Understand the Cost of a Diabetic Foot Amputation

click here for President Obama's Video of Getting the Cost of Diabetes Wrong

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Diabetic foot amputations are preventable. True. But only with diabetic patients and doctors working together diligently.

The reality is that nearly all health problems related to diabetes could (in theory) be prevented if medical intervention was started early enough. But that is not what typically happens with diabetes.

On average, it is believed that most people are diabetic for 2-5 years before diagnosis. This has been changing in recent years with more screening and early testing. If a person has diabetes that is out of control, damage happens. If the diabetes is out of control with skyrocketing blood sugar for a number of years, lots of damage happens.

If the nerves to the feet are damaged one is placed at enormous risk of diabetic foot ulcers that can easily become infected and lead to amputation. Once a sore begins, poor blood flow to the feet (common in diabetes) makes healing slow. Infections set in. If the skin infection spreads rapidly or spreads to the underlying bone (osteomyelitis) then an amputation becomes necessary.

There has ben a great deal of discussion in the media about the cost of diabetic foot amputations. After all they are expensive. The talk however has reached conspiracy theory fever with the misspoken words of President Obama while he was running for the office.

He said that if a surgeon amputates a foot, Medicare directly pays the surgeon $30,000-$50,000.

That statement is, of course, ridiculous at best.

We do know that the total cost (to Medicare) of an amputation related to diabetes is upwards of $50,000. However that cost includes hospitalization for the associated infection, antibiotics (which can cost as much as $1,000 per dose), lab tests, Xrays, MRI studies, follow-up care after the surgery and custom made prosthetic limbs, wheelchairs, home-health care, etc.

You might be surprised to know how little Medicare pays a surgeon for an amputation. Depending upon the level of a diabetic foot amputation, the surgeon would be paid anywhere from just over $200 to just over $1,000. That fee included surgery AND all of the postoperative care for 90 days. That means office all follow-up visits, hospital visits, removing stitches, wound care to get it all healed, and the cost of all bandages applied in the office.

In most cases the doctor who performs an amputation related to diabetes actually makes very little money or actually loses money providing this care.

With this in mind see the video clip and you will understand where much of the confusion about health care reform comes from, given that even the President seems to misunderstand some of the details.

click here for President Obama's Video of Getting the Cost of Diabetes Wrong

New Report Shows Increasing Rates of Amputation Related to Diabetes in Hospitalized Patients

A recently published study may spell bad news for diabetics who don't seek early treatment and competent preventative care. Once neglected, Diabetes leads to host of complications including kidney failure, open wounds that won't heal, foot and leg amputation and death. Many of these problems which can be prevented with proper early treatment are reported to be on the rise. In an age of the most advanced treatments, this should be warning sign ton policy makers, health care advocacy groups and diabetics patients world-wide. For all the details, read the full article here:

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Diabet Foot Treatment Skill #7: Continually Re-Evalaute After Surgery, In Order To Avoid Re-Ulceration, Re-Hospitalization, And Re-Amputation

In these discussions, we discuss each of the 7 essential skills that your diabetic foot treatment must possess. As a better educated person determined to thrive in spite of your diabetes, you’ll be able to evaluate the competency of your treatment team. A competent team will give you the best chance of avoiding a diabetes-related amputation.

Finally we’ll discuss essential skill number seven:

7. Continually re-evalaute after surgery, noting the risk of recurring problems in order to avoid re-ulceration, re-hospitalization, and re-amputation of the diabetic foot.

When you think about all of the things you know about how diabetic foot problems begin, this last skill at your diabetic foot treatment team should possess seems obvious.

But in fact, it is one of the frequently missing pieces. The unfortunate reality is that many doctors are trained to recognize a disease or condition and treat it successfully. Fortunately, many do exactly that. The problem is that modern Western medicine is based on disease cure or "management" and not disease prevention.

Because of this, doctors will often times "heal" a diabetic foot infection and then pat themselves on the back and send the patient on their way. They think they are done. While it is certainly worth applauding the foot doctor for healing a diabetic foot infection, and helping the patient to dodge a bullet so to speak, the patient is still actually in very dangerous territory.

Any patient with a prior history of the ulceration related to diabetes is at very high risk of developing another diabetic foot problem.

If the past episode actually led to an amputation, things are worse. Even if it was just one toe, the patient is at much higher risk of amputation in the future. Statistically, we know that one year after a patient undergoes a diabetic amputation, 26.7% will have another amputation. Three years after a diabetic foot or leg amputation, almost 50% will have another amputation. And five years after a diabetes related amputation, over 60% will have another amputation.

The fact is the odds are not in the favor of the diabetic patient. So diligence is required on the part of both the patient and the diabetic foot treatment team.

Whether it is an amputation of a toe or diabetic foot surgery to remove infected bone, bone spurs, or other deformities, the biomechanics of the foot are altered. The patient may then walk differently. The changes in the way someone walks can increase pressures tom part of the foot and put the patient at risk for developing another open sore.

This is why intensive monitoring after one of these episodes is so essentional.

The unfortunate reality of this however is that many doctors believe that following the patient closely is not within the guidelines of insurance coverage. In essence, they feel that this care will have to be free if they provid it. And in today’s turbulent healthcare environment, most doctors are struggling to see as many pain patients as they can.

The insurance companies have it set up in such a way that if you have diabetic foot surgery, all of your care is included in the surgical fee for 90 days. To the doctor this means that all the care that you need for the next three months is free. This only applies to doctors that Medicare or accept other insurance assignment. They are bound by the contracts that they signed.

For this reason, in most cases, the doctors will tell patients, “Just call my office if you have a problem.” But this usually is not enough. It is much more appropriate for doctors to see their patients at ever increasing intervals following surgery so that they can actually monitor the foot they operated on themselves. This type of intensive monitoring by the foot surgeon is just good medicine.

In my private practice, I would see every surgical patient within one week of the date of surgery. I would then see them one week later and one week after that. And depending on their progress might put them off for two weeks following that. But on average, most patients and had surgery would be seen six to 10 times during the postoperative period. In talking to my colleagues, I discovered that I see patients far more frequently than virtually every other podiatrist I know. But this is just good medicine.

When evaluating your diabetic foot treatment team in order to determine whether or not your doctors are providing the very best care for you, you must look closely at how often they want to see you. They should see you often.

If you have a concern and feel that you need to see your doctor, they should see right away. If you ever hear the phrase “I’m sorry, but your insurance company will not cover that.” You should become concerned.

All doctors take an oath to provide the best treatments and care for their patients. They do not take an oath to only take care of patients if they’re going to get paid well by the insurance companies that they agree to work for. Sometimes doctors just have to do what is right and not just what pays.

As long as your doctors have your best interests at heart, they will take very good care of you and you will get very intensive monitoring. This intensive continued evaluation after a diabetic foot emergency can help you prevent a diabetic foot amputation. As stated before, however it requires a great deal of diligence both from the patient and the diabetic foot doctor and team. But with this care, most diabetic patients will do well.

Diabetes amputations are preventable. Don't just survive...thrive with diabetes!



Dr. Christopher Segler is an award-winning diabetic foot doctor and foot surgeon. He firmly believes diabetic foot problems and related amputations are preventable. It is his mission to share his expertise ad teach strategies that can empower diabetic patients and stop diabetic amputations. You can learn more by requesting your FREE report “No Leg Left To Stand On: The Secrets Insurance Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Diabetic Foot Amputation” at http://www.ineedmyfeet.com.

Essential Skill #6 of Your Diabetic Foot Team: Evaluate Cultures and Change Antibiotics to Fight Bacteria Causing the Infection

In these discussions, we cover each of seven critical skills that your diabetic foot treatment must possess. As an educated patient you will be able to evaluate the competency of your treatment team. Having a competent team will help you prevent an amputation related to your diabetes.

Today we will discuss essential skill number six:

6. Be prepared o evaluate the cultures and change the antibiotics to most effectively fight the bacteria causing the infection.

As explained in the discussions regarding Essential skill #3 (Obtain wound cultures to determine if any dangerous organisms such as MRSA are present and use appropriate culture techniques.) it is critical that you receive the antibiotics that will be the most effective at curing your infection by killing off the bacteria.

The world is filled with bacteria. In fact keeping your skin is covered in bacteria right now. But just because you have bacteria covering your skin does not mean you are in fact it. Doctors refer to the presence of normal bacteria on the skin or in the tissue as colonization. The difference between colonization and infection is that when there is an infection, the bacteria is growing rapidly and causing damage to the tissue. Rapidly growing bacteria producing damage to the tissue is what results in a diabetic foot infections and can lead to a diabetes related amputation.

There are a number of different types of bacteria which can be found in diabetic foot ulcerations and diabetic foot infections. This is why it is important to take wound culture is and determine exactly which bacteria is the one causing the infection. This helps the doctors determine which antibiotics will be the most affective.

For example, if the infection is caused by Staphylococcus aureus and antibiotic such as cephalexin (Keflex) will be highly effective. If however cultures determined that the Staphylococcus aureus is a drug-resistant strain such as methicillin-resistant Staphylococcus aureus (MRSA) then cephalexin (Keflex) will not be affective at all. In fact, giving Keflex as a treatment for an infection caused by MRSA can even make the infection worse.

When there is a great deal of infected material available, the doctors can obtain a sample of the infection and perform a Gram stain. This is a very simple way to get a good idea, of which class of drugs might be affected. Based on this test, your doctors will likely begin antibiotics based on an educated guess of which organism it will be. This is what is known is emperic antibiotic therapy.

But within 48 to 72 hours of obtaining the wound culture is, your doctors should be receiving more detailed information about the bacteria causing the diabetic foot infection. They should also be receiving information about which antibiotic drugs to the infection causing bacteria as well as any concerns of antibiotic resistance. Based on this information, your doctors will then prescribe the appropriate antibiotics.

In the rush of taking care of multiple patients in multiple facilities at the same time, it is easy for your doctors to miss out on this information, and not receive it as soon as it's available. However, it is critical that you are started on the very best antibiotics as soon as possible.

If you have a diabetic foot infections and have not heard from your doctor for several days after cultures were taken, you should call the office and follow-up with that doctor. Otherwise, the report from the lab. That explains the wound culture results may just be sitting in a pile waiting for the doctor's signature in their office.

Treating a diabetic foot infection is an active process that plays itself out over several days. Your diabetic foot treatment team needs to be continually evaluating and reevaluating your condition as well as all of the reports that are coming in over those initial several days in order for you to be able to get better and avoid a diabetic foot amputation.

Diabetic foot amputations are preventable. Preventing a diabetes foot or leg amputation requires diligence on both the patient and the diabetic foot treatment team. Whether surgery is needed or not, the evaluation of the effectiveness of your antibiotics each to be rapid and performed at regular intervals. If you have any concerns about whether or not, you might be responding to the antibiotics you are given, always contact your doctor immediately.

Diabetes amputations are preventable. Live long and enjoy an active life!



Dr. Christopher Segler is an award winning diabetic foot doctor. He believes diabetes related amputations are attributable to a failing health care system that neglects patient education. It is his passion to teach strategies that can empower diabetic patients and stop diabetic amputations. You can learn more by requesting your FREE report “No Leg Left To Stand On: The Secrets Insurance Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Diabetic Foot Amputation” at http://www.ineedmyfeet.com.

Essential #5 of Your Diabetic Foot Team: Be Prepared to Surgically Drain Infection or Remove Gangrene.

In these discussions, we discuss each of the 7 essential skills that your diabetic foot treatment must possess. As an educated patient you will be able to evaluate the competency of your treatment team. Having a competent team will help you prevent an amputation related to your diabetes.

Today we will discuss essential skill number five:

5. If necessary, be prepared to surgical drain any infection or surgically remove any dead tissue (gangrene) at the bedside (debridement).

This is a topic that is not for the squeamish. So prepare yourself.

All amputations in diabetic patients start out as some type of foot infection. The foot infection becomes worse, the bacteria rages out of control, and gangrene sets in. Gangrene is a scary term but simply means death of tissue. Dead tissue happens to be a fabulous medium for bacteria.

This skill is the one most typically referred to as “limb salvage.” If you look up the word “salvage” in the dictionary, you will find “property saved from destruction in a calamity (as a wreck or fire).”

Only by aggressively removing infected and dead tissue can the destruction of a diabetic foot infection be halted.

Emergency surgery is very common in treating diabetic foot infections. The very best way to treat a bad diabetic foot infection is by physically removing the infection…not by giving antibiotic pills. This means opening any area of infection to remove all of the bacteria. The infected compartment of the foot has to be irrigated. This is in addition to antibiotics, not instead of antibiotics.

Your team must be prepared to perform emergency surgery if the infection is bad enough that it is deemed a “limb threatening infection.” You have to keep in mind that the diabetic patient has an immune system that is weak. Because of this one is often unable to fight off an infection.

You have to also remember that poor circulation in the feet and legs (called peripheral arterial disease) is very common in diabetics. Most people with diabetes who are at high risk of a diabetic foot or leg amputation suffer from problems with the circulation in their legs and feet. Any antibiotics are delivered through the bloodstream. So poor circulation means poor delivery of the infection fighting antibiotic drugs.

In 2005, there was a research paper published in medical journal that discussed the risk of hoping to avoid surgey in diabetic foot infections. The article was entitled “Osteomyelitis of the Foot and Toe in Adults Is a Surgical Disease Conservative Management Worsens Lower Extremity Salvage.”

Osteomyelitis is the medical term for a bone infection. The point of this paper was to stress to physicians that hoping for the best and just giving antibiotics does not work. In fact, as the title suggests, that actually makes things worse. Surgery is necessary in order to save a leg from a diabetic foot infection.

Diabetes is a scary disease. Diabetic foot infections likewise can be simple or complicated. In either case, an evaluation is warranted given the potential for the loss of a limb. This should never be taken lightly. Keep in mind that most diabetic foot ulcerations do not need to end up as an amputation.

Although all of this talk about surgery, infections, gangrene and amputations can certainly be alarming, you should remember that your diabetic treatment team is on your side. As long as they are vigilant, you should be able to avoid any of these complications. Make sure you get an evaluation early whenever you notice an open sore. And if necessary, evaluate your team based on these criteria.

Diabetic foot amputation is preventable. Live long and enjoy your life!


Dr. Christopher Segler is an award winning diabetic foot specialist. Although he has performed diabetic foot amputations, he still believes that diabetic foot amputations result from the dismal performance of a failing health care system that prevents adequate patient education. It is his passion to teach strategies that can stop diabetic amputations. You can learn more by requesting your FREE report “No Leg Left To Stand On: The Secrets Insurance Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Diabetic Foot Amputation” at http://www.ineedmyfeet.com.

Why don’t you accept insurance?

Before I went to medical school and I would go see a doctor, I always thought that the insurance company was on my side. I would receive an explanation of benefits that showed that my insurance company had gone to bat for me and dramatically decreased the fee that the doctor was “allowed” to charge me. It made me feel as though they were protecting me from the doctor who is out to “overcharge” me.

Having been a foot doctor and surgeon in private practice who did at one time accept insurance, I realized that the insurance company is only interested in protecting their profits. In fact, the CEO of United Insurance company once stated that the insurance company would never attempt to keep doctors on the insurance plans at the expense of their profits.

Some insurance companies contracted rates that they offer as pay to doctors are so low that it is simply impossible to provide good patient care.

I once received a package via FedEx in my office from an insurance company. The delivery person said that I needed to sign for the package in order to receive it. When I opened the package there was a contract modification that dramatically reduced the rate the insurance companies said they would pay me for taking care of their members. Unbelievably, at the end of his contract was a paragraph that stated that by signing for receipt of the package constituted agreement to all of the conditions contained within the contract inside the package. It is absolutely ludicrous to think I would have agreed to rates without ever even opening a package. But these are the games that the insurance companies play.

The insurance company industry representatives have stated that any doctor should be able to see a patient in five to seven minutes. If you’ve ever been to the doctor, this is ridiculous. Now having said that, I have worked in clinics where I saw 60 people a day. I also believe that the patients did not receive quality care.

What I believe is quality care is providing evidence-based medicine as well as thorough explanations and patient education. All of this is necessary in order for a patient to participate in their own care. Providing a prescription for an order for an MRI or just an recommending that someone return in a few months is not really providing care.

Anyone with diabetes or any complicated medical condition deserves to have explanations. They also deserve to have their questions answered. And they certainly deserve more than five to seven minutes.

I have had multiple other doctors contact me and ask me for surgical second opinion on the patient. I have had many cases where these patients clearly needed a procedure that the insurance companies said they would not pay for. Those doctors then asked me what the second-best procedure was. I would supply them with my opinion. In most cases these other doctors would say, will you please come scrub in with me on the procedure that is covered by the insurance company.

In this scenario, my answer was always the same… absolutely not! , I would tell them that if you want to allow an insurance company to tell you to do the wrong procedure just because it cost them less money than you can do it yourself, and I will not participate.

At the end of 2008, I decided that under no circumstances would I allow an insurance company to tell me how long I can spend with the patient. Under no circumstances can insurance company tell me that the cheaper procedure is necessarily better. At least not better for the patient. So I opted out of Medicare and decided to no longer accept any insurance whatsoever.

High quality medical care is expensive. It doesn’t have to be prohibitively expensive, but it does have to provide the best outcome for the patient. Making decisions based only on price is a mistake for the patient. It is also a mistake to the doctor in the long run. A string of bad outcomes (whether because the wrong procedure or wrong medication was chosen) would certainly not be good for any doctors reputation. But when doctors choose to follow the guidelines of the insurance companies rather than their own medical decision-making, this is exactly what happens.

But this is not a problem for me, because I don’t accept insurance. Patient care comes first and cost is second.




Dr. Christopher Segler is an award winning diabetic foot specialist. Although he has performed plenty of diabetic foot amputations, he firmly believes that diabetic foot amputations result from a continually worsening health care system that the force patients to live with the lowest cost treatments and deprive them of patient education. He does not accept insurance assignments of that he has the time necessary in order to provide the education for his patients that can prevent diabetic amputations. You can learn more by requesting your FREE report “No Leg Left To Stand On: The Secrets Insurance Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Diabetic Foot Amputation” at http://www.ineedmyfeet.com.

Your Diabetic Foot Treatment Team: Why they must evaluate the depth and character of the wound.

In these discussions, we discuss each of the 7 essential skills that your diabetic foot treatment should possess. As an educated patient you will be able to evaluate the competency of your treatment team. Having a competent team will help you prevent an amputation related to your diabetes.

Today we will discuss essential skill number four
4. Evaluate the depth and character of the wound. (Perform a wound assessment that includes both staging/grading of infection and ischemia.)
Open sores on the feet of diabetic patients are very common. These of course are referred to as diabetic foot ulcerations. Not every diabetic foot ulcer will lead to an amputation. Having said that, most diabetic foot or amputations start as a diabetic foot ulcer.

Because of this, it is extremely important for you ta make sure your diabetic foot treatment team thoroughly evaluates any diabetic wound.

Anytime you have a serious medical condition, the first question is…how bad is it? For example if you have cancer, you want to know what stage of the cancer. The stage of the cancer will tell you the extent of the spread and likelihood that you will live or die.

In the same way, staging a diabetic foot ulcer can determine whether or not your foot will live or die. Determining the wound stage will help to determine whether or not you will need to be hospitalized, have intravenous antibiotics, surgery, or even an amputation.

Before describing the staging process, let me caution you as a patient. It is my long-held belief that medical school is a way for doctors to teach student doctors how to lose their ability to communicate with patients.

Classification systems are a very good example of this. In my residency (that had a heavy focus on diabetic foot training), my director understood this more than most. In our surgical conferences if a student or resident doctor mentioned a classification of any condition, Dr. Young would always demand that they explain exactly what that classification meant. This is a vital skill for clear communication. It shows that the doctor can know and explain what is really going on.

Many doctors lose disability. They become so familiar with the technical language and classification schemes, that they are simply unable to describe in simple terms what they see when they evaluate a wound, an illness or a condition.

So without giving you all the specifics about each of the different classification schemes, we will explain what the components are that need to be evaluated and why each is important.

The first component of a diabetic foot ulcer (open wound) classification system that should be evaluated by your treatment team is the size of the hole. It doesn’t really matter how big it is across your foot, but it doesn’t matter how deep. The skin on the foot is very thin and when a diabetic ulcer gets deeper, tendons, ligaments, and bone can become exposed and damaged or infected. Bones and joints that is clearly exposed to the external world through an open diabetic wound can only very rarely be saved.

Not surprisingly, as the wound becomes deeper. The condition is taken much more seriously. In general, skin will not just grow in and cover exposed tendons and ligaments, joints or bones. Action must be taken. In many cases this means surgery. A hope and a prayer is rarely enough.

Once your team has decided how deep it (and what tissues are exposed through the wound) they should next determined whether or not infection is present. This is usually not difficult. Any experience treatment team should be able to determine easily if the wind is infected or not. By definition, if your team cultures the wound, they believe that it is infected. See essential number three.

Next they should determine whether or not there is sufficient blood flow to heal the wound. Poor blood flow to an area is referred to by doctors as “ischemia.” You have to remember that any antibiotics are delivered to the foot through the bloodstream. If the blood flow is poor, the antibiotics can’t even get to the site where the battle is taking place. In addition, there is very little chance of the wound healing without good blood flow.

If the ischemia (or poor circulation) gets bad enough, gangrene can set in. Gangrene is nothing more than death of the tissue. It is often related to infection. Obviously is critical to your team and evaluates the blood flow to your feet whenever you have a diabetic foot wound.

If you have ischemia and an open sore on a single toe, and your treatment seem decides to amputate that toe, it is possible that the blood flow is so bad that the amputation site won't heal. This could create an even larger problem hole in your foot. It is a very basic tenant of diabetic foot surgery that the level of amputation must have sufficient blood flow to heal. Otherwise you may end up with each of your little piggy’s going to market one at a time.

By evaluating the depth of the wound ( including skin, tendon, joint, and bone involvement), presence or absence of infection, and presence or absence of ischemia, a much more realistic prognosis can be determined. All of these factors must be considered in order to determine whether or not the wound is likely to heal without hospitalization and/or surgery.


If you have a diabetic foot ulceration that is being treated without evaluating all of these factors, it might serve you well to seek a second opinion. You should also feel you have the liberty to ask your doctor whether or not you have an infection, any ischemia, or exposed tendon or bone. This is your right. Expect your doctor to explain what is going on.

Beware of doctors who feel you don’t deserve answers.

Diabetes is a complicated disease. Diabetic foot problem likewise can be simple or complicated. In either case, an evaluation is warranted given the potential for the loss of a limb. This should never be taken lightly. Keep in mind that most diabetic foot ulcerations do not need to end up as an amputation.

Although all of this talk about amputations can certainly be frightening, you should remember that your diabetic treatment team is on your side. As long as they are vigilant, you should be able to avoid any of these complications. Make sure you get an evaluation early whenever you notice an open sore. And if necessary, evaluate your team based on these criteria.

Amputations are preventable. Live long and enjoy life!


Dr. Christopher Segler is an award winning diabetic foot specialist. Although he has performed diabetic foot amputations, he still believes that diabetic foot amputations result from the dismal performance of a failing health care system that prevents adequate patient education. It is his passion to teach strategies that can stop diabetic amputations. You can learn more by requesting your FREE report “No Leg Left To Stand On: The Secrets Insurance Companies Don’t Want You To Know About Diabetic Foot Amputation” at http://www.ineedmyfeet.com.